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Quentin Tarantino is getting backlash for saying Marvel actors are “not movie stars.”

Say “Marvel” again, we dare you!

Quentin Tarantino has become the latest prestigious filmmaker to give a humble critique of superhero movies, only to find his comments crushing Hulk on Twitter.

In an interview with Tom Segura for his podcast, 2 bears 1 caveTarantino was asked about the what-would-perfectly-safe topic of Marvel movies.

“I don’t like them,” Tarantino said. ‘No, I don’t. Not me hate them. But I don’t like them. I mean, look, I collected Marvel comics like crazy when I was a kid. There’s an aspect that if these movies came out when I was in my twenties I’d be totally damn happy and totally love them. [But] it wouldn’t be the only movies being made, it would be those movies among other movies. I’m almost 60, so I’m not that excited about them.”

Segura noted that Marvel films often feel like a “copy” of previous MCU films, adding “you’re never taken somewhere you’re not expecting”.

“My only ax to sharpen is that they’re the only things that seem to be made,” Tarantino said. “And those are the only things that seem to garner any kind of excitement from a fan base or even the studio that makes them… So it’s just the fact that they’re the full representation of this movie era right now. There isn’t really much room for anything else. That is my problem. It is a problem of representation.”

“Part of the Marvelization of Hollywood is you have all these actors who have become famous playing these characters,” he added. But they’re not movie stars. Right? Captain America is the star. Thor is the star. I’m not the first to say that. I think that’s been said countless times, but it’s these franchise characters that become stars.”

“In 2005, if an actor stars in a movie that does as well as the Marvel movies, that guy is an absolute star,” he continued. “It means that people appreciate him or her and they like them and want to see them in things. Sandra Bullock is in Speed and everyone thought she was great at it. Everyone fell in love with her… They were excited about Sandra Bullock and wanted to see her in something else. That is not the case now. We want to see that man [keep] Playing Wolverine or whatever.

Marvel’s Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten rings star Simu Liu fired back on Twitter: “If Tarantino and Scorsese had been the only gatekeepers to movie stardom, I would never have had the chance to helm a $400 million+ movie. I am amazed at their movie genius. They are transcendent authors. But they can’t point their nose at me or anyone else. No movie studio is or ever will be perfect. But I’m proud to be working with someone who has made a continuous effort to improve diversity on screen by creating heroes who empower and inspire people from all communities around the world. I loved the ”’Golden Age” too, but it was white as hell.’

Deadpool creator Robert Liefeld retweeted a story about Tarantino’s comments and mocked it (apparently) as “the hottest of the hot takes”.

Scorsese has also famously criticized Marvel movies, calling them “theme parks” and “not a movie theater,” prompting a response from Guardians of the Universe including director James Gunn.

Tarantino fans would probably point out that if the director wants more non-Marvel content that fans are excited about, he could make just that. But the director has famously vowed to stop directing with his forthcoming, as-yet unscripted, tenth film. Tarantino reaffirmed his retirement plan in the podcast.

“I think ten is a good number,” he said. “I’m ready to leave the stage and leave them wanting more. Don’t cloud my filmography with a bunch of out-of-touch old man movies… I did everything I wanted to do.

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